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	<title>Comments on: Iowa state court rules in favor of same sex marriage</title>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ULL:  I look forward to seeing you again, too.  Drinks all around!  Thanks for stopping by and commenting.  I hope you&#039;ll come back.  (You might be surprised to learn that not everyone always agrees with me.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ULL:  I look forward to seeing you again, too.  Drinks all around!  Thanks for stopping by and commenting.  I hope you&#8217;ll come back.  (You might be surprised to learn that not everyone always agrees with me.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ultra Liberal Lesbian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ultra Liberal Lesbian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Michael,

Regarding the second aside: I&#039;ve remembered that very interesting conversation, too. And as I said then, I love it that we, and the others who were a part of it, can have honest and respectful conversations, even when we&#039;re coming from near if not total polar opposite political perspectives.

Saying, as I did, that I shouldn&#039;t have to make the case for equality wasn&#039;t a complaint, but a statement of what I think &quot;equal rights,&quot; &quot;equal protection,&quot; or more broadly &quot;human rights,&quot; are suppose to be about. But of course, that&#039;s the ideal, not the reality, and the case for actual equal rights is one that has needed to be made by people from and for all kinds of communities. We&#039;ll have to keep on doing that, including, though by no means limited to, through the courts.   

Stating that I shouldn&#039;t have to prove that I deserve equal rights doesn&#039;t mean I don&#039;t know, in fact, that I have to do just that, over and over. I&#039;ve been doing it for 30+ years, and like many other people, doing it not just for LGBT rights. 

Living in a very imperfect world, and more specifically, an imperfect nation with imperfect laws and governments, the need to keep on working for equality is the reality. I still don&#039;t think I should have to do that -- a philosophical, ethical, spiritual perspective of a &quot;fair&quot; and &quot;just&quot; world. But I do, and at least for me, the need to keep on fighting / working provides me with more motivation and energy. 

Hey, I&#039;m ready for another round of good conversation and brews, my ultra conservative gay man friend :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Michael,</p>
<p>Regarding the second aside: I&#8217;ve remembered that very interesting conversation, too. And as I said then, I love it that we, and the others who were a part of it, can have honest and respectful conversations, even when we&#8217;re coming from near if not total polar opposite political perspectives.</p>
<p>Saying, as I did, that I shouldn&#8217;t have to make the case for equality wasn&#8217;t a complaint, but a statement of what I think &#8220;equal rights,&#8221; &#8220;equal protection,&#8221; or more broadly &#8220;human rights,&#8221; are suppose to be about. But of course, that&#8217;s the ideal, not the reality, and the case for actual equal rights is one that has needed to be made by people from and for all kinds of communities. We&#8217;ll have to keep on doing that, including, though by no means limited to, through the courts.   </p>
<p>Stating that I shouldn&#8217;t have to prove that I deserve equal rights doesn&#8217;t mean I don&#8217;t know, in fact, that I have to do just that, over and over. I&#8217;ve been doing it for 30+ years, and like many other people, doing it not just for LGBT rights. </p>
<p>Living in a very imperfect world, and more specifically, an imperfect nation with imperfect laws and governments, the need to keep on working for equality is the reality. I still don&#8217;t think I should have to do that &#8212; a philosophical, ethical, spiritual perspective of a &#8220;fair&#8221; and &#8220;just&#8221; world. But I do, and at least for me, the need to keep on fighting / working provides me with more motivation and energy. </p>
<p>Hey, I&#8217;m ready for another round of good conversation and brews, my ultra conservative gay man friend <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Music City Bloggers &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gay Marriage Legal In Iowa</title>
		<link>http://michaelnotmike.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/iowa-state-court-rules-in-favor-of-same-sex-marriage/#comment-247</link>
		<dc:creator>Music City Bloggers &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gay Marriage Legal In Iowa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michael Not Mike is talking about the recent decision in the Iowa court which allows same-sex couples to marry. An Iowa district court ruled Thursday that same-sex couples can marry based on the state constitution&#8217;s guarantee of equal treatment, court documents show. The ruling was in response to a December 2005 lawsuit brought by six same-sex couples seeking to wed. They were denied marriage licenses and claimed such treatment violates equal-protection and due-process clauses in the Iowa constitution. The court also struck down a state law declaring valid marriages are only between a man and woman. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Michael Not Mike is talking about the recent decision in the Iowa court which allows same-sex couples to marry. An Iowa district court ruled Thursday that same-sex couples can marry based on the state constitution&#8217;s guarantee of equal treatment, court documents show. The ruling was in response to a December 2005 lawsuit brought by six same-sex couples seeking to wed. They were denied marriage licenses and claimed such treatment violates equal-protection and due-process clauses in the Iowa constitution. The court also struck down a state law declaring valid marriages are only between a man and woman. [...]</p>
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